Competitive Edge: Join The Hosting Cooperative!

DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames AdminAdministrator

Gain a competitive advantage over other hosting providers by joining the Hosting Cooperative to leverage our numbers.

If interested, please post or ask questions in the comments below.

The Cooperative is a democracy so as a member owner you may put up your ideas for a vote. It will be a "Limited Cooperative Association" incorporated in the state of Colorado, see: https://jrwiener.com/limited-cooperative-associations-and-early-stage-financing/#:~:text=The%20limited%20cooperative%20association%20is,cooperative%20principles%20and%20economic%20structure.

There is a "buy-in" to join the Cooperative payable directly to our Colorado Attorney who administers our account on behalf of the member owners. Our Attorney is also the Registred Agent for the Cooperative. Feel free to try out this Cooperative before paying anything by getting to know us here. We welcome your feedback in the comments.

Benefits to the Cooperative include:

1) Now that Oakley Capital has raised the prices of cPanel several times, it's no longer worth the price. Yet our customers demand the same look & feel of cPanel. Thus your "buy-in" is paying for a custom "cPanel-like" theme for Ispconfig that we will sell as a proprietary commercial product soon to appear at ManageNode.com. It as a great alternative to cPanel at a low price. As each new release of Ispconfig comes out, we'll pay our Developer a small fee to update the version of our theme. The Cooperative will pay dividends to each member equally based on net sales. Of course members of the Cooperative are allowed to use this control panel free in-house potentially saving a significant amount of money. 

2) Funds will be held by the Colorado Cooperative Attorney in an account we can all track. Net payments go to each member after expenses are paid.

3) The Cooperative will use it's numbers for group buys like discounts on CloudLinux. CloudLinux will support the commercial custom Ispconfig theme we offer.

4) The Cooperative has the option to lease a physical headquarters in Western Connecticut for $50/year plus the utilities that the Cooperative actively uses (see Pictures below). If no utilities are used, only the $50/year is paid.

The 3 buildings (potential server room?) sit on almost one acre of land only 2 hours from New York City. They are owned by a Cooperative member so they can be remodeled to suit our needs.

We have the option to turn this into anything desired as long as the Cooperative covers the utilities if we vote to add things like servers. In the main building, the upstairs is currently a dining hall while the downstairs is being slowly renovated into a server room with upgraded electricity (there is needed modifications to be done before it's ready for servers).

5) This forum, HostBoards.com is owned equally by all member hosts in this Cooperative and the 2 domains will be registered to our Colorado attorney to be held in trust for all members (ManageNode.com will also be registered in trust to our Colorado attorney). Each member owner may rotate their ad in for a week in the header, side, & footer banner ad spots to advertise their hosting business.

6) For 2022, my proposal is that the Cooperative apply for the Start.coop grant which is a $10,000 prize given to multiple winners. If we won that $10,000 grant, it would be transformational for getting this Cooperative off the ground.

7) We ask for your ideas on more the Cooperative can provide as benefits for members?


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Comments

  • S4_JohnS4_John Link Clerk

    There are a few things in this post that don't make sense to me.

    Two of the biggest are...

    The 'physical headquarters' for $50 per year, what does that mean, is it just a mailing address for $50 per year, is it being able to use all of that physical space for that price, or is $50 a typo.

    Why create a 'cPanel like' theme for ISPConfig? ISPConfig is a great control panel, as is cPanel. Why does everyone want everything to look like cPanel all the time, as if it is the best designed UX in the history of working online.

    As great as ISPConfig is, it has some big flaws and omissions, like the lack of a file manager for example, surely and investment in development of it (or a commercial variant of it) would be much better spent in the direction of adding and improving functionality than cPanelising it?

  • DeluxeNamesDeluxeNames Admin Administrator

    @S4_John said:
    There are a few things in this post that don't make sense to me.
    The 'physical headquarters' for $50 per year, what does that mean, is it just a mailing address for $50 per year, is it being able to use all of that physical space for that price, or is $50 a typo.

    Thanks for your feedback @S4_John. The $50 is not a typo & it's not just a mailing address. The 3 buildings on an acre of land are currently owned by one of the Co-op members & he's making it available to us. Since it's current use outside the Co-op is already paying for it's taxes, he doesn't need to pass on the taxes to the Co-op.

    @S4_John said:
    Why create a 'cPanel like' theme for ISPConfig? ISPConfig is a great control panel, as is cPanel. Why does everyone want everything to look like cPanel all the time, as if it is the best designed UX in the history of working online.

    Demand from customers John. While we both agree on your assertion that it doesn’t need to look like cPanel, and that Ispconfig is already great, my customers demanded a solution that looks the cPanel that they're used to. I've seen enough confirmations from other providers that their customers also demand a cPanel-like panel.

    @S4_John said:
    As great as ISPConfig is, it has some big flaws and omissions, like the lack of a file manager for example, surely and investment in development of it (or a commercial variant of it) would be much better spent in the direction of adding and improving functionality than cPanelising it?

    I love that idea John & other ways to improve Ispconfig is exactly what we want to work on. Do you think a file Manager can be created as an addon to Ispconfig or would it need to be a fork?

    Care to join us as a guest on the Co-op before committing any money?

  • cloudmatecloudmate NAT Warrior

    ISPconfig is Good but at last, Its a Free Panel which is less functional than Paid Alternatives. To make it to Industry Standards, It needs to get a Variety of Addons and Features added but due to its no Funding/support, Its not Possible.

    Firstly, Few of the many Things which ISPConfig require are:

    1.Litespeed Addon: Its not official but Free Version of Litespeed(OLS) sin't fully compatible with Apache Config which Means users still have to go to Paid LSWS to get their Speeds UP.

    2.File Manager: I have worked on cPanel Backends only but ISPconfig being open source, It could also be modified and integrated with Open File Managers like Tiny File Manager but AJAX File Managers aren't on the priority list of ISPconfig team so You cannot expect when it will be released with the Package

    1. No Tools: Like cPanel IP Blocker, MIME Type, MultiPHP INI Manager, ISPconfig dosen't have any of these features.

    I don't think ISPconfig Theme needs to be like cPanel. Its good and Exceptional as it is...

    The best someone could do is build a New Platform with OpenLitespeed,VSFTPD,PowerDNS,Dovecot and Postfix because editing a prebuild platform is harder than making your own! To Make it exceptional, the developers could add High Availablity and Full Clustering which would enabled Cloud like Features.

    Shared Hosting | VPS Servers | Dedicated Servers

    Ankesh Anand
    CloudMate Softwares
    Managing Director
    ankesh@cloudmate.in

  • S4_JohnS4_John Link Clerk

    @DeluxeNames said:
    Care to join us as a guest on the Co-op before committing any money?

    I appreciate the offer, but it's not really something that we would be interested in at the moment.

    @cloudmate said:
    ISPconfig is Good but at last, Its a Free Panel which is less functional than Paid Alternatives. To make it to Industry Standards, It needs to get a Variety of Addons and Features added but due to its no Funding/support, Its not Possible.

    I'm not sure that I agree with this actually. ISPConfig is a very good product. It's far from perfect, but so are all of the other panels out there both open source, closed source but free (not fan of this model at all), and commercial.

    The nice thing about open source software is that you can use it as a base and develop your own fork that does exactly what you want the way you want it to. One thing that ISPConfig does very well is multi-server setups. It's nice to not have to waste resources on having a control panel instance on each server and having one central admin point.

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