Visual C++ and Visual Basic 2005

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I recently downloaded both Visual C++ and Visual Basic Express Editions along with Sql Server Express Edition, hoping to learn some new languages

Does anyone know any good resources for learning visual c++ and visual basic?

right now im clueles lol

actually any help would be appreciated! :confused: :confused:
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  • NuvoNuvo Forum Leader VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    VB = AGAGAGH!!!
    C++ = Google.

    Seriously, I wouldn't bother with VB as it's far from perfect.
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  • PythonPython Forum Leader The Royal RAM
    I know some VB... enough to make some basic programs :D I learnt it all in college though...

    And same goes for C++ but I know much less.

    Maybe take a look at Tutorialized.com

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  • danielneridanielneri WP V.I.P. VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    ah thanks guys
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  • NuvoNuvo Forum Leader VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    The reason why I say VB is a language I'd avoid is that it's not as powerful as C++, C# or even Delphi (despite being a beginner level language, Object Pascal can match up to C++ in quite a few area's).
    Some apps require that you have a runtime package (you might know of this if you've used an app programmed in VB before) and Visual BASIC is far less portable than C++, which is pretty much a standard language on most OS's (though using some Microsoft only code will make life more difficult when if you want to move to say, linux or OS X).
    experts exchange has loads of sollutions to problems people have run into using C++ and VB, but in my experience, their site is a bit slow and the advanced search features are for paying members only (that was some time ago)...

    P.S.
    Yes, the name did cause some ammusement, but now there's a hyphen (here's a clue, 3 words and plastic surgery).
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    LMAO - Just noticed what the domain is without the quotes :P

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  • ChroderChroder Senior Member The Royal RAM
    Since you say "recently downloaded ... Express Edition", I assume you are referring to MS's .NET solutions. If so, VB.NET has the exact same capabilities as C#, C++.NET etc.

    The only difference between the languages is syntax. There are a few (very few) features that exist only in one and not the others, but since they all use the .NET framework, it does not matter which of them you choose to learn.

    If you do mean VB (that would be VB6) or Visual C++, then it depends. VB makes it extremely easy to create applications. For a beginner, learning VB might very well be the best choice. It is true that the strict C++ standard is cross platform, but you won't be making any Visual applications that would be cross platform (even creating console applications using just standard libraries isn't very interesting). The "visual" part is all Microsoft. Visual C++ is very difficult to learn compared to the ease of Visual Basic.

    It would be more worthwhile to jump into learning C/C++ (if you plan on developing for Mac OS, then Objective-C) and get your feet wet in console applications IMO. Then you can move up to wherever you want and you won't be totally lost. Beginners often feel the need to make a pretty GUI before they understand basic concepts ;)

    But, that was not your question ;) I find CodeProject a good resource for code examples and specific how-to's -- I usually purchase books, so I cannot comment on tutorials.
  • danielneridanielneri WP V.I.P. VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    oh haha i just got that nuvo lol

    chroder, apparently i got Microsoft Visual Basic Express Edition 2005, not vb6 or any .net applications.

    visual basic is damn easy compared to any c++..with c++ im already lost!
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  • NuvoNuvo Forum Leader VPS - Virtual Prince of the Server
    C++ is pretty old, but it's still one of the most powerful languages to program with.
    The most recent version of the VB IDE should support .NET like everything else coming out of Microsoft's development tools arm these days.
    .NET is a proprietry framework that'll only work properly under Windows, but there's a project which is basically an attempt to make a cross platform .NET framework called mono.
    VB is designed as an introuctory language while C++ is more of a "get things done" language that'll run almost anywhere.
    My dislking for VB goes a fair bit back since it never really grabbed my attention and more than half of the programmers I know always have something bad to say about it.
    Like all languaged though, in the right hands it can produce wonderful things, but in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are doing, it won't produce anything of value.

    Chroder, VC++ isn't the only C++ RAD IDE.
    Borland produces both C++ builder and Kylix.
    C++ Builder works under windows, but may be integrated into Delphi soon to produce a Kylix style IDE that doesn't run under Linux.
    Granted, learning C++ with VC++ may mean you cut out learning about building a GUI from scratch, but at least you know that you can use your knowlage on more OS's and then find a visual tool for that.

    Some more links:
    http://www.planet-source-code.com/
    http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
    http://visualbasic.about.com/
    http://cplus.about.com/
    http://www.programmersheaven.com/
    http://www.vbaccelerator.com/home/index.asp
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    thanks so much nuvo ur to damn helpful, when they say kids brains are like sponges, its not literal!!!
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